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I’ll preface this blog by saying it’s a bit of a tough-love message. Learning about the “Anti-Decider” has been a hard lesson for me over the years. And I confess, I still occasionally give my most earnest advice on this subject…followed in some regrettable cases with the kind truth of, “I warned you.”

“I hate asking for money!” That’s the refrain we often hear from volunteers and staff alike, especially at the beginning of a campaign. I even heard it from Dr. Ed Miller of John Hopkins Medical School… someone who raised $2.2 billion during his tenure.

This is the second of a two-part conversation with my friend, Lee Heyward, as part of our What Matters podcast series. (Did you miss the first part? Listen to it now.)

Recently, I had a chance to sit down with my former pastor and dear friend, Lee Heyward, as part of our on-going What Matters podcast conversations.